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all this fiscal cliff talk reminds us of cliffhangers in the movies but which cliff scene will washington's dare devil act look like? could we see both sides leap to safety at the last minute like paul newman and robert redford in butch cassidy or could it be more like rebels without a cause drag racing toward a danger they don't appreciate until it's too late. [screaming] there are other movies where going over the cliff is a planned thing like it was for bill murray's desperate character trying to end his recurring nightmare in "groundhog day." >> we musn't keep it waiting. >> he might be ok. chris: the worst movie analogy we could imagine ends badly for all concerned. let's hope and pray that thelma and louise are not boehner and obama. my own favorite clip is mount rushmore, "north by northwest," the hitchcock great with cary grant pursued by spies. the survival is never in doubt. not sure if that's true now. when we return, the hillary clinton for 2016 talk is ready to roar. scoops and predictions. chris: we just re-elected barack obama but the hillary for president talk is getting lou
all this fiscal cliff talk reminds us of cliffhangers in the movies but which cliff scene will washington's dare devil act look like? could we see both sides leap to safety at the last minute like paul newman and robert redford in butch cassidy or could it be more like rebels without a cause drag racing toward a danger they don't appreciate until it's too late. [screaming] there are other movies where going over the cliff is a planned thing like it was for bill murray's desperate character...
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if we're going off the fiscal cliff, we know capital gains tax rates are going higher, right? right? that's obvious. do you really think the republicans have the power to keep those capital gains rates down? apple's become a referendum on the president's power and polling. right now he has the upper hand, then he can really roll them and intends to do so. it's reasonable to take some profits so you can pay the tax man less now rather than more later. it's a wimpy thing, it's logical, makes perfect economic sense. especially if you hold apple. so the stock gets hammered. it makes sense to sell it. but let's be less emotional and even clinical about this one. first, divide apple's share price by ten, now you have a stock that got crushed down to $54. when you do that arithmetic, it isn't all that scary, is it? where does the pessimism fit in? when we have to endure the pin the tail on the selloff game, what excuses for the selloff, myriad alibis i hear from today's action. apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the
if we're going off the fiscal cliff, we know capital gains tax rates are going higher, right? right? that's obvious. do you really think the republicans have the power to keep those capital gains rates down? apple's become a referendum on the president's power and polling. right now he has the upper hand, then he can really roll them and intends to do so. it's reasonable to take some profits so you can pay the tax man less now rather than more later. it's a wimpy thing, it's logical, makes...
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apple just the latest victim of the fiscal cliff. eventually it's too cheap to ignore and then it's time to take a bite, the apple dog, the market tail, it won't always stay that way. don't move, "lightning round" coming up. how far will people go to relieve their sore throat? try these. new cepacol sensations cools instantly, and has an active ingredient that stays with you long after the lozenge is gone. not just a sensation, sensational relief. syou know, i've helped alot ofof people save a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep. meep meep? (sfx: loud thud sound) awhat strange place. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> it is time -- it is time for the "lightning round" on cramer's "mad money." you say the name
apple just the latest victim of the fiscal cliff. eventually it's too cheap to ignore and then it's time to take a bite, the apple dog, the market tail, it won't always stay that way. don't move, "lightning round" coming up. how far will people go to relieve their sore throat? try these. new cepacol sensations cools instantly, and has an active ingredient that stays with you long after the lozenge is gone. not just a sensation, sensational relief. syou know, i've helped alot ofof...
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>> i contends the fiscal cliff will come to an agreement. it will be temporary in nature, kind of a year type of plan. i think the market has digested a bit that tax rates will go up. it's just a matter of how much spending are we going to cut to make this a market between the democrats and republicans. >> does monetary policy hurt or help the banks? keeping rates as low as they are, it's tough to make a buck the traditional way of lending and spending, right? >> i'm going to be a two-armed economist because i can't said on the other hand. there's two things that are very important. first of all, credit in commercial real estate is phenomenal. cap rates are really low. so the fact that rates are as low as they are has allowed commercial real estate not to fall into the abyss. if commercial real estate had to refi at high rates, we would have had another problem. the other problem is the fact margins are getting squeezed at these banks. credit quality is better. >> that's where the money comes from. >> yeah, fees. by the way, you can eat thes
>> i contends the fiscal cliff will come to an agreement. it will be temporary in nature, kind of a year type of plan. i think the market has digested a bit that tax rates will go up. it's just a matter of how much spending are we going to cut to make this a market between the democrats and republicans. >> does monetary policy hurt or help the banks? keeping rates as low as they are, it's tough to make a buck the traditional way of lending and spending, right? >> i'm going to...
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if no deal is struck and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in this room, and that will absolutely leave an awful lot of voters, democratic and republican, unhappy. >> tom, you even picked red and green for the season? i'm kidding. tom foreman explaining to us in a way that absolutely no one else can. we have got to figure out a way to bottle this guy. he's awesome. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having diff
if no deal is struck and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in this room, and that will absolutely leave an awful lot of voters, democratic and republican, unhappy. >> tom, you even picked red and green for the season? i'm kidding. tom foreman explaining to us in a way that absolutely no one else can. we have got to figure out a way to bottle this guy. he's awesome. so now i can be in the...
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we're looking toward the fiscal cliff, possibly ben bernanke comes out and says more. it seems everyday we don't have a fiscal cliff deal we actually go higher in the stock market. i think we would go lower heading toward the deadline. the market looks strong, apple looks strong. $50 billion in revenue possible. we do look strong. coleman offers 1700 level. lot of activity in december. and they're expecting a huge move in the next week and a half. liz: no real fear in the market, so pretty significant blows around 15. bond yields are not doing anything exciting. do you look at that and say i am in? or do you say the fear trade is over? >> always at the volatility index and that is one of the gauges a look at it daily basis. basically levels of the s&p 500 futures the highest since obama was elected presidency. we sold awfully hard, we got back and possibly took some stocks off. we're reversing a little bit from the upside, selling off a little bit. the fiscal cliff are the two words that will be mentioned the most. we have costco earnings tomorrow, we'll keep an eye on
we're looking toward the fiscal cliff, possibly ben bernanke comes out and says more. it seems everyday we don't have a fiscal cliff deal we actually go higher in the stock market. i think we would go lower heading toward the deadline. the market looks strong, apple looks strong. $50 billion in revenue possible. we do look strong. coleman offers 1700 level. lot of activity in december. and they're expecting a huge move in the next week and a half. liz: no real fear in the market, so pretty...
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we've been so focused on the fiscal cliff, we haven't thought about the jobs number coming out tomorrow. what do you expect? >> i expect it to be nothing that's going to
we've been so focused on the fiscal cliff, we haven't thought about the jobs number coming out tomorrow. what do you expect? >> i expect it to be nothing that's going to
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[applause] >> more about the impact of the fiscal cliff coming about as the joint chief of staff >> i think the writers institute is very important that in the culture. we are a culture of words, of the voices. the words are key to our imagination and a capacity to envision things. we ourselves are tied to print on the page. but i think there is no other art form so readily accessible that is something in literature and the just captures the human spirit. .. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff admiral michael mueller joined former senators in the house armed services committee chairman this week to urge congress to avoid sequestration. also speaking over the next 50 minutes, arms services committee chairman sam nunn, ike skelton and the national security hosted this event in washington, d.c.. >> good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is pete peterson. i would have given you a review of the foundation and why we are supporting the project you are here about today. starting about 30 years ago, after studying the profound demographic trend, and the vast unfunded pharmacis
[applause] >> more about the impact of the fiscal cliff coming about as the joint chief of staff >> i think the writers institute is very important that in the culture. we are a culture of words, of the voices. the words are key to our imagination and a capacity to envision things. we ourselves are tied to print on the page. but i think there is no other art form so readily accessible that is something in literature and the just captures the human spirit. .. former chairman of the...
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. >> i am not concerned about the fiscal cliff. >> how come? >> because right now i'm concerned about getting the right gift for my mom? >> i still have people and friends, very close friends, out of work, underemployed, so, i, yeah, of course i'm concerned about it, yeah. >> do you know what the fiscal cliff is, ashley? >> i do, but i don't know enough about it tos be concerned or have an opinion on it so i'd rather just worry about my christmas gifts. >> all right, she gave me an honest answer. bull regardless of knowledge, people are increasing their spending, everyone from piper afterree to the consumer federation said people are spending more this holiday and we are hearing from shoppers here that cliff or no cliff, they are most all telling me they think the economy is, quote, getting a little better. what are they buying? after buying electronics on black friday, shoppers are moving onto basics, like children's apparent and videogames. back in the fall, 38% of those parents said they delayed some back to school purr chases to the holiday
. >> i am not concerned about the fiscal cliff. >> how come? >> because right now i'm concerned about getting the right gift for my mom? >> i still have people and friends, very close friends, out of work, underemployed, so, i, yeah, of course i'm concerned about it, yeah. >> do you know what the fiscal cliff is, ashley? >> i do, but i don't know enough about it tos be concerned or have an opinion on it so i'd rather just worry about my christmas gifts....
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cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying? the president is saying there's no way to make the math work. without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give on this. >> yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position, that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the table, you have to have revenue increases. now how you get those to revenue increases was an item of discussion during the campaign, and it's an item more negotiation, i for one think you can get there by eliminating and broadeninging the tax base which eliminating loopholes and deductions. the truth of the matter is that we're not undertaxed as americans, we overspend. i think everything would agree that we overspend that's why we have this debt to gdp of 100% as far as the eye can see absent policy changes, so whatever you do, you first have to agree what the level of debt to gdp ought to be. and there will be a debate about that b
cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying? the president is saying there's no way to make the math work. without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give on this. >> yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position, that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the table, you have to have revenue...
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is economic problems does this tax debate or even this fiscal cliff debate begin to scratch the surface of the crisis all former republican strategist author and historian kevin phillips is here with lessons we can learn from seventeen seventy five the subject of his latest book that many a politician may benefit from actually reading. from a long time in politics you know i don't do it anymore but boys mark thirty do not read history book. and the as these the is reportedly investigating going to be providing twelve billion dollars in derivatives trading losses in two thousand and eight yeah yeah there's a list of alleged bad bank behavior how. it is good capitalism though being driven out by bad capitalism all will break it down and word of the day plus alan greenspan says a painless solution to the u.s. debt is a fantasy plan finally something we can agree on more in loose change let's get to today's capital account. our guest kevin phillips made a name for himself in the late one nine hundred sixty s. as a g.o.p. operative who coined the phrase and wrote the book the emerging republ
is economic problems does this tax debate or even this fiscal cliff debate begin to scratch the surface of the crisis all former republican strategist author and historian kevin phillips is here with lessons we can learn from seventeen seventy five the subject of his latest book that many a politician may benefit from actually reading. from a long time in politics you know i don't do it anymore but boys mark thirty do not read history book. and the as these the is reportedly investigating going...
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joe and becky are coming right back after the break. >>> still to come, look past the fiscal cliff. what caterpillar's ceo told the president and the company's plans for 2013. can the economy dig its way out of this slow growth rut? find out at 7:30 this morning right here on "squawk box." americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together for your future. ♪ >>> welcome back to "squawk box." we're just about an hour away from the first time jobless claims. planned job cuts rose for the third straight month in november according to the latest challenger report that number rose to more than 57,000 last month up 34% from november of 2011. the year-to-date total is still 13% below where it was a year ago. also the european central
joe and becky are coming right back after the break. >>> still to come, look past the fiscal cliff. what caterpillar's ceo told the president and the company's plans for 2013. can the economy dig its way out of this slow growth rut? find out at 7:30 this morning right here on "squawk box." americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping...
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cliff is coming to town. merry cliffmas. if the parties here cannot agree to a budget deal by january 1st, automatic spending cuts will kick in and plunge america into a second recession. and things are not looking too good. >> democrats and republicans are blaming each other for the negotiations. >> who's going to blink first? >> who's going to blink first? >> the white house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the joke's on him because i know some republicans who have had their eyelids surgically removed. >>> also, what caused former indiana senate candidate richard mourdock at first the likely winner in that race to end up losing to joe donnelly? you might well point to this moment from a mourdock/donnelly debate. >> i struggled with it myself for a long time but realized life is a gift from god. even when life begins in the horrible situation of rape it is something god intended to happen. >> mourdock's popularity plummeted after that. now he's trying to pay
cliff is coming to town. merry cliffmas. if the parties here cannot agree to a budget deal by january 1st, automatic spending cuts will kick in and plunge america into a second recession. and things are not looking too good. >> democrats and republicans are blaming each other for the negotiations. >> who's going to blink first? >> who's going to blink first? >> the white house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the...
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the fiscal cliff talks not going anywhere yet. during the next two weeks we will start to see some positive remarks. one thing that is very interesting, heat and oil settled in a very weak position. those two coming off could take the energy complex down much further. right now only 85 to 85.10. cheryl: we have plenty of supply out there right now. we are in the middle of winter. >> we have a tremendous amount of supply. we do not have much cold weather coming up near term. once the fiscal cliff starts getting resolved, you will see some buying going on. cheryl: bobby, i want to go back to you about europe. we have not had a lot of problees. seems like the greeks are kind to getting things. >> the last few days, europe markets have been pretty strong. as you said, a sleeping giant. cheryl: i do not want to see anything change. it has been nice. gentlemen, thank you. i appreciate it. great floor show today. uncertainty seems to be the norm in washington these days. last year you have the debt ceiling convey. congress had trouble pu
the fiscal cliff talks not going anywhere yet. during the next two weeks we will start to see some positive remarks. one thing that is very interesting, heat and oil settled in a very weak position. those two coming off could take the energy complex down much further. right now only 85 to 85.10. cheryl: we have plenty of supply out there right now. we are in the middle of winter. >> we have a tremendous amount of supply. we do not have much cold weather coming up near term. once the...
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giev tot face the fiscal cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying. the president is saying there's no way to make the math work without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give in on this. >> yeah, yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position. that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the table. yo view to have revenue increases. now, how you get those revenue increases was an item of discussion during the campaign. it are be an item of discussion during the negotiation. i for one think you could get there in way that would promote economic growth by eliminating -- by bronding the tax base, by eliminating loopholes and deductions. the truth of the matter, fareed, is we're not undertaxed as americans. we overspend. i think everybody would agree we overspend. that's why we have this debt to gdp over 100%. fars as the eye can see, absence poultcy changes. whatever you do, you first have to agree what the
giev tot face the fiscal cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying. the president is saying there's no way to make the math work without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give in on this. >> yeah, yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position. that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the...
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trying to decide about the fiscal cliff. they will at some point come to an agreement. let's take a look at some travel sites. priceline got a downgrade today. that is on concerns of their competition with trip advisor and expedia. let's take a look. deutsche bank cut its recommendation on priceline. 710 from 800. from a hold to a buy. the margins will be pinched by the competition. when i was looking at the year today, priceline is the worst of the three. that is the latest. back to you. tracy: thank you, nicole. ashley: president obama speaking on the right to work controversy. the speech in detroit. she gives right to work is about politics. there is thh message from the president in michigan. tracy: loud anddclear. housing short sales job ahead of new year tactics changes. one expert will tell us how it can impact the fragile recovery. ashley: first, a look at some of today's winners and losers. these stocks are doing well. cisco up about 2%. we will be right back. ♪ you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gavis
trying to decide about the fiscal cliff. they will at some point come to an agreement. let's take a look at some travel sites. priceline got a downgrade today. that is on concerns of their competition with trip advisor and expedia. let's take a look. deutsche bank cut its recommendation on priceline. 710 from 800. from a hold to a buy. the margins will be pinched by the competition. when i was looking at the year today, priceline is the worst of the three. that is the latest. back to you....
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. >> talks continue as a lemon fiscal cliff approaches. we'll have details on the president's private meeting with house speaker john bay near coming up. >> clear conditions as you head out of the door, not really any fog to talk about. of the door expect 30's and 40's in mid to upper 60s later this afternoon. looking ahead we have some big changes to talk about in the form of wet weather. before we get their let's talk about conditions now. 39 in santa rosa up 39 out the door in fairfield. a look at your afternoon highs and walking through future cast four and my next report. >> a live look at traffic headed to san francisco. we hardly had a back up at the bay bridge toll plaza, now it is stretching almost towards the end of the parking lot thanks to three separate stalls. one of the incline one that the cancer we recession in one of the span. they're all out of the way but there is heavier traffic into san francisco. give yourself extra time as you head into san francisco. the bid is as the lights are still off. no major hot spots. major
. >> talks continue as a lemon fiscal cliff approaches. we'll have details on the president's private meeting with house speaker john bay near coming up. >> clear conditions as you head out of the door, not really any fog to talk about. of the door expect 30's and 40's in mid to upper 60s later this afternoon. looking ahead we have some big changes to talk about in the form of wet weather. before we get their let's talk about conditions now. 39 in santa rosa up 39 out the door in...
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number one, he was questioned persistently about the fiscal cliff and had to come out and say what he said before we don't have the tools to deal with it if we go over it. that was a approximate stocks started moving down and secondly, the 6.5% unemployment rate. that's got a lot of people talking down here that we may be closer to that than a lot of people think. >> bob, that's only because people are leaving the workforce. that's how we're going to get there. if everybody decides to stop looking for work and stay home and watch soap operas then we'd have an unemployment rate of zero. >> that could be a factor in their decision making, i'm sure it will be, but i'm using the numbers actually out there, 6.5%. that number may be hit a little bit sooner. >> he said he was not going to stick to that if people keep leaving the workforce. >> right, just a guidepost, not a hard target. >> stephanie or randy, you know, another market that moved today was gold. >> yeah. >> moved higher after the fed's announcement. there are those who feel as they keep the rates this low for the foreseeable fu
number one, he was questioned persistently about the fiscal cliff and had to come out and say what he said before we don't have the tools to deal with it if we go over it. that was a approximate stocks started moving down and secondly, the 6.5% unemployment rate. that's got a lot of people talking down here that we may be closer to that than a lot of people think. >> bob, that's only because people are leaving the workforce. that's how we're going to get there. if everybody decides to...
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if no deal is struck and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in the room and that will absolutely leave an awful lot of voters, democratic and republican, unhappy. >> i want to take a closer look at what each side wants in the fiscal cliff and dpoeshiations, where they stand on taxes and savings. gloria borger joining us live. that was pretty cool what tom did. >> love that virtual studio. >> unbelievable. >> great. >> tell us a little bit about the sticking point here. it's about the taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans and the president sticking to that. republicans, it looks like some of them at least willing to move or budge on that. where do we stand? >> a little bit. we're kind of in the part of this where each side's waiting for the other side to go first, suzanne. and of course, the big sticking point, as you point out, is revenues. they have to figure out what to do about revenues before they figure out what to do about anything else. let's take a look at this. there's a big dif
if no deal is struck and the fiscal cliff comes, then $600 billion in automatic tax increases and spending cuts will kick in. that could affect a lot of programs in the room and that will absolutely leave an awful lot of voters, democratic and republican, unhappy. >> i want to take a closer look at what each side wants in the fiscal cliff and dpoeshiations, where they stand on taxes and savings. gloria borger joining us live. that was pretty cool what tom did. >> love that virtual...
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as a result of the fiscal cliff. i'm ainsley earhardt. back to "on the record" with dana perino. than a dozen chrysr workers caught on-camera drinking, getting high on their lunch breaks, then returning to work on a jeep assembly line. you saw this video two years ago. eventually chrysler employees got the axe, but now they're back on the job. we broke the story originally. rob, how did they pull this one off? >> well, they went to arbitration. the arbitrator sided with the workers. so the uaw workers got their jobs back, as simple as that. >> but explain that to me, because most places, people watching across america tonight, would say, okay, if i showed up on the job, drunk or high, hung over, caught on my lunch break, doing something that might impair the people around me, or the actual work i'm doing, i would lose my job. so what do the unions have that others don't have that get them a second chance at a job like this? >> well, this is a situation where chrysler fired the workers. they were embarrassed by the vi
as a result of the fiscal cliff. i'm ainsley earhardt. back to "on the record" with dana perino. than a dozen chrysr workers caught on-camera drinking, getting high on their lunch breaks, then returning to work on a jeep assembly line. you saw this video two years ago. eventually chrysler employees got the axe, but now they're back on the job. we broke the story originally. rob, how did they pull this one off? >> well, they went to arbitration. the arbitrator sided with the...
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when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> so we all also from nancy pelosi, the democratic leader in the house of representatives earlier today. she came before cameras also, no news from her had as well. holding pattern here in washington. rhetoric is pretty heated on both sides. you heard boehner there saying the president has wasted a week here. but behind the scenes, aides did give us some indication they'll continue to talk through the weekend so i think what's going on here is you're seeing the public blast of ret lick but behind the scenes they are talking to each other. i think the talks are fair le well coordinated. you can tell that by how tightly the white house and boehner camp on the press side have coordinated their rollouts of what they've said about these talks. they're within minutes of each other, using the same language. that's an indication talks are sort of going along here. it is not an indication we will have a deal any time soon but there's no reason to give up hope just now
when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> so we all also from nancy pelosi, the democratic leader in the house of representatives earlier today. she came before cameras also, no news from her had as well. holding pattern here in washington. rhetoric is pretty heated on both sides. you heard boehner there saying the president has wasted a week here. but behind the scenes, aides did give us some...
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. >>> hello, again, just over three weeks away from that fiscal cliff, we just come off a week of press conferences, symbolic votes in senate, but less than an hour of serious negotiating. what will it take to break the stalemate? we'll get into that this morning, with two big roundtables of elected officials and experts. let's begin with the lawmakers. senator tom coburn for the republicans and debbie stabenow for the democrats. and congressman hensarlingg. the president said that for there to be a big deal, tax rates on the wealthy are going to have to go up. if that's his bottom line, can there be a deal? >> again, as the speaker has said, unfortunately what we see out of the president is my way or the highway. one dollar revenue for 2.5 of spending reductions. now, after the election, it's a little bit of bait and switch. now he's asking for $1.6 trillion. and if you look closely, for every one dollar of tax increase there's about 20 cents of spending reductions. >> i'm talking about the rates. if the rates go up, can the republicans in the house accept the tax increase? >> no rep w
. >>> hello, again, just over three weeks away from that fiscal cliff, we just come off a week of press conferences, symbolic votes in senate, but less than an hour of serious negotiating. what will it take to break the stalemate? we'll get into that this morning, with two big roundtables of elected officials and experts. let's begin with the lawmakers. senator tom coburn for the republicans and debbie stabenow for the democrats. and congressman hensarlingg. the president said that for...
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from the fiscal cliff. this is where they focus on this morning and we are looking at prices that slid even more so than the wti price. that gained more than wti over the last several sections. but it is right around $108 a barrel right now. natural gas harder hit and that had much more to do with the report that came out today that is very bearish. we are looking at a key technical level, now look for the down side target around 325. that's what traders are looking at. and you mention gold below 1700 and the fact that traders are taking profits but also, sue, looking at fact that now the changing from day base it data base. that changes the picture here on stimulus, on rates and could change the outlook for gold at least in the short run. >> all right, sharon, thank you very much. kenny is here with me. independent trader at nyse. also with ty, ceo of wealth management. kenny, what do we know today that we didn't know yesterday or vice versa. yesterday the fed said they were going to keep rates low for a l
from the fiscal cliff. this is where they focus on this morning and we are looking at prices that slid even more so than the wti price. that gained more than wti over the last several sections. but it is right around $108 a barrel right now. natural gas harder hit and that had much more to do with the report that came out today that is very bearish. we are looking at a key technical level, now look for the down side target around 325. that's what traders are looking at. and you mention gold...
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when we come back, deal making in a post-fiscal cliff world. faber has an exclusive interview with the ceo of investment bank moelis and company. more in just a moment. >> announcer: the holiday season is here and that means lots and lots of photos with a certain someone. now you can display it in style with a picture frame signed by the entire "squawk on the street" gang. if you can guess friday's nonfarm jobs number it's all yours. tweet your guess and don't forget hash tag nail the number. you have to be at least 18 years of age to enter. sorry, kid. for all of the official rules and details, go to cnbc.com. you have until 8:29 a.m. eastern this friday morning. good luck and say cheese. melons!!! oh yeah!! well that was uncalled for. folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy, ronny? happier than gallagher at a farmers' market. get happy. get geico. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. ♪ you can stay in and like something..
when we come back, deal making in a post-fiscal cliff world. faber has an exclusive interview with the ceo of investment bank moelis and company. more in just a moment. >> announcer: the holiday season is here and that means lots and lots of photos with a certain someone. now you can display it in style with a picture frame signed by the entire "squawk on the street" gang. if you can guess friday's nonfarm jobs number it's all yours. tweet your guess and don't forget hash tag...
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we will have more on the fiscal cliff coming up on the sunday round table in 20 minutes. next is paris from maryland on the independent line. caller: my question is, how money -- i think we need to go back to the basic for all americans to understand how money is made. how is it created. it is a clear understanding, that is the point. what organized people to come together to do something like school, police department, all of these types of things. how is it created? what is day one? as what i am looking at, what is day one? when civilization first expands, how money was created? host: the republican address came from marco rubio who has had a higher profile the last couple of months including his acceptance of the camp award in washington. here is more from the florida senator in the republican response. [video clip] >> americans of struggling to keep middle-class jobs for two reasons. we're not creating enough of these jobs and too many people did not have the skills for the jobs that are being created. a limited government can and help solve these challenges. we must
we will have more on the fiscal cliff coming up on the sunday round table in 20 minutes. next is paris from maryland on the independent line. caller: my question is, how money -- i think we need to go back to the basic for all americans to understand how money is made. how is it created. it is a clear understanding, that is the point. what organized people to come together to do something like school, police department, all of these types of things. how is it created? what is day one? as what i...
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host: if this is not addressed in the fiscal cliff debate, will it come up in the debt ceiling debate? guest: all of this depends on how the fiscal cliff sorts itself out. yesterday, you have senators say we want on income benefits extended. if the fiscal cliff debate is only limited to tax rates and deficit reduction, and not the debt ceiling, this will come up again. president obama once the debt ceiling to be part of this agreement. the reason why is simple, because that is where republicans have leverage in february. he needs republicans to extend the debt ceiling for the government to function with all going into default. republicans know this, and in theory they could separate the two to maximize their leverage. host: time for a couple more calls in this segment of the "washington journal," we will continue the unemployment insurance discussion in the following segment. laura is in louisville, kentucky, on the independent line. caller: good morning. what bothers me is when people say they actually can not find work and they have been on unemployment for 20 months, whatever they
host: if this is not addressed in the fiscal cliff debate, will it come up in the debt ceiling debate? guest: all of this depends on how the fiscal cliff sorts itself out. yesterday, you have senators say we want on income benefits extended. if the fiscal cliff debate is only limited to tax rates and deficit reduction, and not the debt ceiling, this will come up again. president obama once the debt ceiling to be part of this agreement. the reason why is simple, because that is where republicans...
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in a few short weeks, the fiscal cliff is coming to town. merry cliff mas. with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it has to be exciting. jim? >> the president is asking for 1.6 trillion. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? >> pro union protesters are swarming the michigan capitol building in lansing. >> you're disgusting. >> dude, you are from michigan, detroit. eight mile. you have to come up with better miles than busting and disgusting. if you want to win the rap battle, put effort into it. >> you have one job. one factory. when you seize every benefit you could, yo, my palms are sweaty and knees weak working in the factory building chevies. you plug it in and you win. ecologically because if it was an actual race you would not actually. you got to collect for the union or robots are going to take away our jobs or to the chinese kids with the tiny hands the work will go. this opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo. >> we are locking at heavy rain and we will see i
in a few short weeks, the fiscal cliff is coming to town. merry cliff mas. with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it has to be exciting. jim? >> the president is asking for 1.6 trillion. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? >> pro union protesters are swarming the michigan capitol building in lansing. >> you're disgusting. >> dude, you are from michigan,...
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i'm be watching for developments in the so-called fiscal cliff. this is a known even about fear of the cliff has caused many investors to pull out, creating a real buying opportunity. finally, i'll be watching for the felt, they've been artificially keeping treasuries and mortgage-backed bonds down. i'll be watching for fund followups into different areas. >> all right, thank you so much. chris, you're up. break it down for us. >> i'll be watching the bank of japan overnight. they are set to be releasing their fourth quarter survey. we are expecting business conditions to show continued detear owe ration. i'm going to be looking at cpi and pmi readings out of the euro zone. roughly in line with previous readings. going to be very findful of potential upside surprising there. going to be looking at technical levels with dollar yen trading just below those 2012 highs around 84.20 and looking at a potential inverted head and shoulders. >> all right, good stuff. right on top. jeremy, you are up. last but not least. tell me what you're watching tomorro
i'm be watching for developments in the so-called fiscal cliff. this is a known even about fear of the cliff has caused many investors to pull out, creating a real buying opportunity. finally, i'll be watching for the felt, they've been artificially keeping treasuries and mortgage-backed bonds down. i'll be watching for fund followups into different areas. >> all right, thank you so much. chris, you're up. break it down for us. >> i'll be watching the bank of japan overnight. they...
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better than expected retailers, in the end when it come to the fiscal cliff, to the longer we delay a deal or can't do a deal at all, it's worse for all the shareholders and the investors and the stock market. yes, a deal that does nothing, it simply keeps taxes where they are right now and doesn't cut entitlements, that's what everybody wants. does matter, believe he, i mean what's going to happen if we do nothing except keep things exacthe they are now, and just vote to undo the cliff. they'll downgrade the u.s. debt. but that's it. by the way, we have already proven through nine ways of sunday that -- when our credit rating got downgraded last summer. well, bonds went up in price and down in-year-old. -- in yield. so why not do nothing? why doesn't the president say we're just going to keep bonds the way they are. and we're not going to cut entitlements because we know if we don't cut taxes, the republicans will go along with their no tax pledge and the markets will go higher and no one will care, for now. but he told us that's not going to happen, and he got re-elected. what does
better than expected retailers, in the end when it come to the fiscal cliff, to the longer we delay a deal or can't do a deal at all, it's worse for all the shareholders and the investors and the stock market. yes, a deal that does nothing, it simply keeps taxes where they are right now and doesn't cut entitlements, that's what everybody wants. does matter, believe he, i mean what's going to happen if we do nothing except keep things exacthe they are now, and just vote to undo the cliff....
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the timeline of the holidays and fiscal cliff looming and negotiations will come to a point where there has to be a best point. >> the jet fumes of national airport is the joke, but how big is that christmas holiday, if that is threatened, will that motivate more people to vote for something? >> if you want to see how this vote will come down. look at the first bailout or t.a.r.p. bill. >> one vote up and one vote down. i don't think anybody will get there. if you look at the people who maybe voted no the first time and then voted yes, that's probably the -- the vote that boehner has to get to and say, i need you on this one. people like me -- >> were you no both times? >> i was no both times. >> where were you? >> i was yes both times. >> members of the same party. thanks for coming in. good luck and stay in touch. thank you very much. >>> up next, senator mccain's bid for more influence on capitol hill. >>> plus, developing news on whether syria's leader will resort to chemical weapons. >>> after california, which state had the most incumbent members of congress looz -- we' right back
the timeline of the holidays and fiscal cliff looming and negotiations will come to a point where there has to be a best point. >> the jet fumes of national airport is the joke, but how big is that christmas holiday, if that is threatened, will that motivate more people to vote for something? >> if you want to see how this vote will come down. look at the first bailout or t.a.r.p. bill. >> one vote up and one vote down. i don't think anybody will get there. if you look at the...
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oking at the real nbers the fiscal cliff. werojeed it out over 10 years if we sow you the big fufull screene made and numbers look pretty scary from tax perspective ther if we went er the fiscal clit would increase taxes 5.6 trillion. that is 10-year period. fairly say no one believes we would staon the road for 10 years. i want to do it so you do side by side comparison. spending cuts 1.2 trillion. the president wants to raise taxes 1.6 trillion. cut spending by 600. the house plan looks like sort of a flip-flop of that. what do you think of all these numbers. what do u make of it? what is your first impression? >> i think the point that you made is almost in passing is very ey point. thesese areprections. the 10-year projections. when was last time in washington 10-year spending projections actually came in at or low what the projections wewere met to be it never happens. sames true o the revenue side wit taxes. i think the numbers we're lang out here are probly the quote, uuote best-case scenario terms of what could actual
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cliff. the warning comes after president obama talked with boehner last night on the phone. sources say it was a tense conversation. experts warn of a new recession if a deal can't be reached in 20 days. >>> new jersey governor chris christie says it's ridiculous to say he couldn't be president because of his weight. he pushed back at his critics in an interview with abc's barbara walters. the republican governor is rumored to be considering a bid for the white house in 2016. >>> and, anderson, pope benedict xvi blessed his internet followers in his first tweet today. the pontiff has nearly 1 million followers on this english twitter page alone. and has many other accounts in several other languages. some say he is the coolest pope in history. >> isha, thanks very much. >>> a former u.s.afghanistan. now, his parents fear he may die in a mexican prison. they're pleading for his safe return after what began as a surfing trip, it's turned into a nightma nightmare. w? >>> a new twist in the biza
cliff. the warning comes after president obama talked with boehner last night on the phone. sources say it was a tense conversation. experts warn of a new recession if a deal can't be reached in 20 days. >>> new jersey governor chris christie says it's ridiculous to say he couldn't be president because of his weight. he pushed back at his critics in an interview with abc's barbara walters. the republican governor is rumored to be considering a bid for the white house in 2016....
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all coming up on "mad money." >>> everybody is fretting about the fiscal cliff. until we get a deal. i got more negative when harry reid said it is unlikely that a deal will be done by christmas. i'm thrilled to have senator john hovan, a republican from north dakota who has been an advocate for bipartisan consensus here with us tonight. welcome back to "mad money." >> jim, good to be with you. >> i noticed that you are for a bipartisan situation and one of the things that tells me you are for real is that you have not signed a pledge that would make it so that you can't vote for a tax increase. it should be a big deal on the order of four trillion dollars over ten years. that's what we need to get growth in our economy and the kind of deal that includes tax reform, entitlement reform and better spending control. >> when you were governor of your state you presided over what i think is the single greatest employment boom we've seen. is washington so different that you wish you were back home? >> you have been out to north dakota, you're invited back, but you are
all coming up on "mad money." >>> everybody is fretting about the fiscal cliff. until we get a deal. i got more negative when harry reid said it is unlikely that a deal will be done by christmas. i'm thrilled to have senator john hovan, a republican from north dakota who has been an advocate for bipartisan consensus here with us tonight. welcome back to "mad money." >> jim, good to be with you. >> i noticed that you are for a bipartisan situation and one...
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no end in sight for the fiscal cliff hanger. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another wee>> why speaker says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> the feds are borrowing nearly a billion dollars a day. so why is the white house saying reducing our debt not really the goal? >> thank you, eric, it's the most watched video on the internet of all time. he is set to perform for the president. gangnam style said about our soldiers a few years ago. that controversy kicking up this morning. "fox & friends" hour one begins right now. >> get out the coffee. wake up, everyone, thank you so much for waking up with tus, it is "fox & friends" on this saturday morning. dave bowling in for dave briggs. >> come in and do the show with us today. more filling in today than the regulars. we are glad to be on with you clayton. >> you are on an interesting morning because congress now just 23 days left, 23 days until we head off that flif. fiscal cliff. if you listened to speaker boehner yesterday he is reading r
no end in sight for the fiscal cliff hanger. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another wee>> why speaker says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> the feds are borrowing nearly a billion dollars a day. so why is the white house saying reducing our debt not really the goal? >> thank you, eric, it's the most watched video on the internet of all time. he is set to perform for...
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liz: washington, still, as you know, not coming to a solution on the fiscal cliff with the clock ticking louder than ever. coming up, we are joined exclusively by the former treasury secretary paul o'kneel and how he would solve the crisis. david: big labor taking a big hit, right it work bills sent to the governor's desk who is joining us live after the break. ♪ ins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligatis, but obligatio. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsa
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sandy, fiscal cliff. but as a result, the ones that fall and come down a lot, those are the ones you pick at. >> and pope benedict is launching a new application. pope to you on facebook. the application lets you listen to his words, see his pictures and receive messages of congratulations through virtual post cards. >>> all right, all right, sema? >> hewlitt packard jumping nearly 4%. carl may be interested in the company. hp facing serious issues and the stock faulling 44%. own an fast money at 5:00, we want to know if you think they can rise from the dead. >> thank so much. >>> final trades up next when we come back on "halftime." s. i d'. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes inve
sandy, fiscal cliff. but as a result, the ones that fall and come down a lot, those are the ones you pick at. >> and pope benedict is launching a new application. pope to you on facebook. the application lets you listen to his words, see his pictures and receive messages of congratulations through virtual post cards. >>> all right, all right, sema? >> hewlitt packard jumping nearly 4%. carl may be interested in the company. hp facing serious issues and the stock faulling...
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fiscal cliff face-off coming to an end. the president and the speaker holding a meeting at the white house this weekend. we are live in washington with the latest. what it all could mean for the che. whether or not we go over the cliff could have a major impact on the markets in 2013. barclays coming out with its outlook. we'll talk to their first strategist. weeks away from christmas but today is the busiest day actually i think in corporate history for fedex. millions of deliveries being processed. we'll take you live to a fedex center as millions of dollars, nothing to laugh about. we'll introduce you to the entrepreneur who has managed to make big money making people laugh with his company cheeseburger. that's coming up later this hour. we'll start in washington. president obama, speaker boehner met face-to-face over the weekend to talk some fiscal cliff. our john harwood is live at the white house with more on that. john, good morning. >> good morning, carl. you know the president's been very clear since the election t
fiscal cliff face-off coming to an end. the president and the speaker holding a meeting at the white house this weekend. we are live in washington with the latest. what it all could mean for the che. whether or not we go over the cliff could have a major impact on the markets in 2013. barclays coming out with its outlook. we'll talk to their first strategist. weeks away from christmas but today is the busiest day actually i think in corporate history for fedex. millions of deliveries being...
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to the fiscal cliff. but tim geithner just told cnbc that we're going to go over the cliff unless tax rates go up. at the same time, two dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we already bailed out detroit's auto industry. but now, at least one motown politician is telling president obama he should bail out detroit bankrupt city government, too. this sure isn't the free market, and i asked why should a texas taxpayer bail out detroit? >>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president obama was warning about? >> we
to the fiscal cliff. but tim geithner just told cnbc that we're going to go over the cliff unless tax rates go up. at the same time, two dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we...
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coming up. rise above. cramer is keeping you one step ahead of the fiscal cliff fiasco. tonight he is getting a read on the regionals the ceo of a national bank. to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. n you take a closer look.... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. presc
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coming out today in a report, saying that the fiscal cliff could reverse u.s. home price improvements. so, that sees like a lot of risk built into the sector here. >> yeah, if you look at the sector, evaluation wise -- hd and lowe's price to earnings ratio are above where they were during the peak of the housing bubble. that's a lot of hammers that you have to sell here. i'm short. that's the way to play it. >> there's a rise which has just within phenomenal and then there's the actual housing market which has had a nice bump but nowhere near what we've seen in the equities, so, i think we could see both, them come down and the housing bottom still continuing and finding strength. >> yeah, i'd say, you know, 1.8 times book, these guys are expensive. people, you know, if you look, they have underperformed the s&p in this kind of post-election, after we troughed, this run back up 5%. they are really underperformed. i think there's already rotation there and people recognize these things are pricey. >> let's move onto our next trade, get some unusual activity in s
coming out today in a report, saying that the fiscal cliff could reverse u.s. home price improvements. so, that sees like a lot of risk built into the sector here. >> yeah, if you look at the sector, evaluation wise -- hd and lowe's price to earnings ratio are above where they were during the peak of the housing bubble. that's a lot of hammers that you have to sell here. i'm short. that's the way to play it. >> there's a rise which has just within phenomenal and then there's the...
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senator is telling president obama it's time to start manning up on the fiscal cliff, the point of attack coming from south carolina senator lindsey graham. is he right? does the president need to do? kevin mccarthy joining us tonight. there's a public negotiation owing on. you could read one article and think we've made progress in washington in getting to a deal, then you read another piece and it's two steps back. you're here. tell us where you think we're at right now. >> don't think we're close to negotiations, finishing anything. there's nothing agreed to. they're just beginning to talk. think of this, the president wasn't in negotiating, he was in detroit campaigning. the senator is right. this president needs to get off the campaign trail. the election is over. now it's time to govern. what's more important, what senator graham is talking about, the president has to start talk being spending cuts. we've already had two months of the new fiscal year. we're $292 billion in the deficit. there's some interesting numbers through there. revenues have increased $30 billion. they've gone
senator is telling president obama it's time to start manning up on the fiscal cliff, the point of attack coming from south carolina senator lindsey graham. is he right? does the president need to do? kevin mccarthy joining us tonight. there's a public negotiation owing on. you could read one article and think we've made progress in washington in getting to a deal, then you read another piece and it's two steps back. you're here. tell us where you think we're at right now. >> don't think...